Why my Angelfire is better then yours

Russell_Nash · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 645 Location: Burn Ward

*Disclaimer: donâ€™t take title too seriously, just the first thing that came to mind*

Basically Iâ€™m just making this post to bring up some points about Angelfire that Iâ€™ve noticed people have not really been adopting.

Here my list:

Lands
1 Island
4 Plains
2 Adarkar Wastes
1 Boros Garrison
3 Faerie Conclave
3 Hallowed Fountain
2 Izzet Boilerworks
3 Sacred Foundry
2 Shivan Reef
2 Steam Vents

Creatures
2 Bogardan Hellkite
4 Court Hussar
4 Lightning Angel

Spells
4 Lightning Helix
4 Remand
2 Demonfire
2 Disintegrate
4 Foresee
4 Wrath of God

Artifacts
3 Azorius Signet
3 Boros Signet
1 Loxodon Warhammer

Sideboard
SB: 4 Condemn
SB: 3 Odds/Ends
SB: 4 Faith's Fetters
SB: 4 Return to Dust

Basiaclly the major points:

1. Faerie Conclave > Urza's Factory: this guy is pretty great in angelfire, he generally runs contention with urza's factory for slots. Heres why I think its much better: a) evasion, with flying hes going to almost always get in for 2. b) makes blue, not a huge deal but it helps. c) only costs 3 mana(relatively) as apposed to the factories relative 8; that means late game you can easily attack with a conclave or 2 and still have mana open to cast other spell. Pretty bang up awesome and I donâ€™t understand why it hasnâ€™t made its way into more lists.

2. Foresee > compulsive research. a)foresee can dig as far as 6 deep as apposed to researches 3. b) with foresee, there are no 2 land junk draws, you can always get at least 2 gas cards off of foresee every time you cast it.

3. 2 Demonfire + 2 Disentegrate > 4 demonfires. Basically this is just for the random extirpate and regeneration creatures. 95% of the time they server the same function but sometimes they help.

4. Loxodon Warhammer. I dunno about you guys but this card has made a major comeback in my area. There getting run in a lot of mid-range aggro and control decks. I got tired of losing to them so I decided to start packing 1 or 2 myself. They work surprisingly well in the deck considering how few creatures it runs. Lightning angel + War Hammer is just too solid. Also in a pinch it can be equipped to conclave to get in a 10 point life swing.

5. 0 Flagstones. I feel like this card just doesnâ€™t fit anymore in this deck. Ever since wildfire stopped getting played I just donâ€™t see the point of playing this card that 80% of the time I just tempo loss. There are no global LD spells being played right now, and if its targeted they would just target something better like a dual land or bounceland. I feel like a regular plains is just a better card. The only card I can think of this is decent for is the 1BR split; Hit I think.

The SB is mainly just meta for my area. A lot of random artifacts like Epochrasite, warhammer, masticore, and crucible. Odds/Ends is mostly for Trolls (a pretty bad solution but theres not much to work with right now) it also is pretty good against counters since Odds essentially counters a counter regardless. Also its been pretty fun seeing the look on my opponents face as they ask what they card does again while attacking with 2 trolls.

So what do you guys think? Do you guys have any points on Angelfire that you feel like arenâ€™t being recognized? What do you feel about mine?

Fanboy · Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 424

With soo much rack flying around flagstones should really be kept in mind...maybe only 3 however.

next...if your hell bent on faerie conclave...why not run 2 and 1 urzas...late game urzas is far more useful and necessary.

foresee versus compulsive...yeah foresee does more...but 3 cc vs 4cc is a big matter. you may not want to blow your first turn at 4 available cc on a draw spell.

Near · Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

Ironicus · Joined: 08 Jan 2006 Posts: 135

what about no signet? if you don't control a signet you have to wait 4 turn before foresee. Also it good to maximize the manacurve. Even if you have a lot of mana, sometime you will need to cast more then one spell in a turn to win and 1 mana can do the difference. Like "Omgomg Ill die if I don't draw a condemn right now!!!". (With 4 mana open). With foresee you're dead at 100% and with compulsive you have one last shot. it's the samething if you want to cast Compulsive with a faith fetter, you're gaining advantage if you can play both spell in the same turn, and 8 is harder than 7. Seriously, I think I'm like 90% vs this list.

With compulsive you have more chance to wog turn 4. Vs Aggro turn 4 you're alive, turn 5 you're dead. So I don't think that digging deeper is more important in this case.

Near · Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

iamFrankie · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 24

wrath is one of the most useful cards here because of the few creatures it runs. Why not put in akroma angle of fury? It ends up being a 6/6 with fly and stuff for 6 on the turn you unmorph