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Martyr - Fog



 
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SiRpOpTart15



Joined: 15 Jul 2007
Posts: 42

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:35 pm    Post subject: Martyr - Fog Reply with quote

Alright ive been playing this for a little bit now seems solid. Constructive criticism please.

Lands - 23

2 Brushland
4 Flagstones of Trokair
4 Mouth of Ronom
2 SC Forest
2 SC Plains
2 SC Swamp
3 Temple Garden
2 Terramorphic Expanse
2 Urborg

Creatures - 4

4 Martyr of Sands

Artifact - 5

1 Feldon's Cane
4 Howling Mine

Spells - 28

4 Dawn Charm
2 Enduring Renewal
4 Extirpate
2 Gaea's Blessing
4 Holy Day
3 Proclamation of Rebirth
3 Rights of Flourishing
3 Sunscour
3 Wrath of God
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SiRpOpTart15



Joined: 15 Jul 2007
Posts: 42

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh forgot the SB here it is:

SB - 15

3 Jester's Scepter
4 Darkness
4 True Believer
4 Krosan Grip
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lennin
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the deck is bad
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SiRpOpTart15



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

havent had any trouble against any one deck online yet. dont see how its bad
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KeySam



Joined: 14 Oct 2005
Posts: 553

PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all play 4 wrath 2 scours... THe scours cant be compared to wrath. The random Feldons cane is a bad idea he just does nothing, if you want another thing to not get milled i suggest jotun grunt. The problem this deck has is burn at your face if they can stop martyr(pithing needle, extirpate...). And you also run into problems vs any kind of combo deck, no matter how bad they are. You will face serious problems against control cause you dont have permission and they do, so they just counter your wrath, and scorus and 3 -4 times your fog and your dead. I wont talk here about aggro control that will be the same just ways harder. Your Proclamation martyr engine need a lot of lands and you only play 23 without mana accel....(ok flourishing...). You didnt had any problems vs decks? Who did you played against?? KeySam
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have no way of winning the game once you have established that you won't lose thanks to your lifegain. You win games online because your opponents are conceding the game once you have the Proclamation + Martyr engine and they have no answer. However, in a major tournament, this will not happen (not if you played against me, anyway). I would simply play the game until its end, just slow enough to not get warnings for stalling. I would get a draw, or even better: if I knew I had answers to martyr decks in sideboard, and not in main, I would scoop the first game once the life engine was online and win the next two.

Building decks like this is futile. Spend you energy and creativity on building decks that wins games instead.
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ant900



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vedrfolner wrote:
You have no way of winning the game once you have established that you won't lose thanks to your lifegain. You win games online because your opponents are conceding the game once you have the Proclamation + Martyr engine and they have no answer. However, in a major tournament, this will not happen (not if you played against me, anyway). I would simply play the game until its end, just slow enough to not get warnings for stalling. I would get a draw, or even better: if I knew I had answers to martyr decks in sideboard, and not in main, I would scoop the first game once the life engine was online and win the next two.

Building decks like this is futile. Spend you energy and creativity on building decks that wins games instead.

in case you haven't noticed the deck is a mill deck
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 1443

PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ant900 wrote:
Vedrfolner wrote:
You have no way of winning the game once you have established that you won't lose thanks to your lifegain. You win games online because your opponents are conceding the game once you have the Proclamation + Martyr engine and they have no answer. However, in a major tournament, this will not happen (not if you played against me, anyway). I would simply play the game until its end, just slow enough to not get warnings for stalling. I would get a draw, or even better: if I knew I had answers to martyr decks in sideboard, and not in main, I would scoop the first game once the life engine was online and win the next two.

Building decks like this is futile. Spend you energy and creativity on building decks that wins games instead.

in case you haven't noticed the deck is a mill deck


Mill decks don't work.
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SiRpOpTart15



Joined: 15 Jul 2007
Posts: 42

PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice constructive thoughts guys...

and mill decks can work
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