Applet tag not found

Ashmatan · Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 61

This is the message I get when I put the URL in the Applet checker from PJIRC and I have not been ablr to play a tourney, mini, master in over 2 weeks! HELP! Anyone! I've been eating "unable to connect : null" for too long and I am sick of it. I need to play!! help, please!

Laplie · League Staff Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 551

whenever you get "unable to connect:null" you should try another server from the dropdown list.

You can also connect to the chat server directly using an IRC client such as Mirc: http://www.magic-league.com/guide/mirc.php .

Ashmatan · Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 61

I have enough computer literacy to troubleshoot my own problem to the following which I no longer know which way to go and need assistance: basically, the server that I connect to through magic-league.com who uses PJIRC as its IRC does not have a Java applet tag for PJIRC to connect me to. In laymen terms, I am assuming that a server maybe does not have the applet tag that will let my Java connect to the server Java (hypothetically like male-female connectors?) I have also researched the forums to find out that downloading mIRC doesn't just magically solve the problem. I've still got to connect to the chatroom. Which IS the problem. I can browse all the forums I want, see as many sites about magic as I want, but when it comes down to connecting to the chatroom for minis to see where to play--it's a no-go (probably because it uses Java also). This is a hurdle that could maybe be avoided somehow (with help from the TCs). How about so that noone would HAVE to join the chatroom to find out where to play, there could be 1 certain server (mwsgames,mwsplay, ligamagic, pavouk, magic-league) assigned to the trial/mini/master and have it posted up along with the pairings. I mean, there are enough servers to go around; and if you alternate servers, there wouldn't be enough on it at once to cause it to crash. Also, if there is a mutual agreement, they can switch to another server. They can work that out in the mws chat logs (at least, if they can connect there, then they can figure it out by chatting in that way, not just the channels in the m-l chatroom). As for large scale trials, I would suggest breaking the player list down alphabetically probably 5 slots, 1 for each server. You know, A-E for one, F-J for another, etc. til the end. I don't know, just some suggestions for y'all for problems that anyone could encounter that just plain disables the ability to join a mini/trial/master. BTW, IT REALLY SUCKS!!!

nico · Administrator Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 837

First of all, get you knowledge straight when it comes to irc. The only java component that you use it the one on the site, wich is used to connect to a network of servers that are not run on java. Java applet is just the client.
Second: donwnloading mirc is a good alternative, and it is a very good idea because it can be used to troubleshoot.
Also: did you read the mail by Laplie? he advised you to connect to aother server, because for some odd reasons, it may happen that you cannot reach one server on the network, even though it is online and working for others.
So, next time, it might be a good idea to look the answers, and give a more detailed desription of the error, preferably in mirc.
Ah, also: did you check the firewall settings? they might be off.
Also, you are proposing something that is impossible to do, because a: there are different organisations that run different leagues
B: Different servers for mws guarantee more options to connect with mws. (note that the thing you say about the different servers is about the play servers for mws, and has nothing to do with irc, so it is a non-solution)
Also, do you really understand what it takes to run game servers? I mean, if ever all those names would use one server, the load on the computer/internet connection that is used to run that server would be too big, and it would collapse. Remember that the servers are run on private computers, not on a professional net. Because of that the leagues and servers can be kept free of charge.

Greetz Nico

Lamex · Technical Director Joined: 08 Mar 2004 Posts: 170

It never amazes me how much people thing they know while in fact they are saying nothing but nonsense.

Unable to Connect: null

common error when either your firewall or your router does not let you connect to the server on the port 6667. I suggest you take a look into that.

Also if I were you I would use the search option of this forum. It has been stated several times already.
And since you think Java is at fault have you ever considered upgrading it to the latest version? I am still trying to figure out what you are saying that is the problem according to you, cannot seem to figure out the logic.. that is a new one for me..

Ashmatan · Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 61

Ok, to all you out there that sit in front of your PC and flame everyone with a serious question--ahum..!!!!
I'm not looking for that. I need a real person with a real personality (a good one) to help me with my answer. Not one that just asks me "did you check your firewall, connect to another server?, etc. there's only one answer here. If you do not appreciate help from other who do not understand what you are saying then do not ask for help at all!

DUH you must be really popular!!! Like I said in my post, I can troubleshoot up to a point. Yeah except what you are saying makes no sense at all from your own so called 'troubleshoot'
Yes, I checked ALL the other servers and my firewall. (why the fuck wouldn't I?) The only suggestion that may be of any use is to check the port like Lamex said. I'll do that later, after I get back from WORK and my FAMILY is taken care of (you know, REAL shit in life that comes first). owh yeah we are all computers and have no real life.. yeah right..
As far as downloading Java, hmm tried that too, but it kept giving me an error saying that it wasn't sure if the file existed or some garbage like that. Plus, dial-up + downloading anything = sucks!!

From Lamex: I edited your post on several places. I do not feel like helping you anymore with this kind of attitude. As well going off on a staff member like the way you did on a fully total normal reply is not smart at all. You have two problems, one is your attitude and the other is your arrogance. Consider this one to be a warning, next time will be a ban for a week.
Have fun.

nico · Administrator Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 837

Ashmatan, think first, then start typing and bragging about real life shit if you don't know who you are talking to. People are helpful enough inhere, unless you want to act like a dick that thinks he knows it all.
Understand a few things: All of us are doing things for free here.
some people inhere might have some more experience concerning computers than you have.
And to end it all ALL people inhere like to be treated with respect, and that is something that you are not giving in this last post.
If you want people to help you, answer in a normal way, and don't talk down to them. It tends to work better when you want to look people in the eye, instead of trying to stand above them, and in the process proving that you don't know as much as you are claiming to.
In my first reaction, I asked you a few basic questions that needed to be answered first, before there could be a real answer, because in your own post (as lamex so nicely pointed out) you didnot really give a very clear description of what you have done.
Compare it to calling a helpdesk. When you do that, the first thing they will do is start some troubleshooting process like: have you done x, or y or z, and from that point on, you go further.
If you give some vague descrition, no helpdesk will be able to give a fitting answer right away, and even (like in your case) might not be able to give an answer at all.
So for a next time, you might want to consider to be more clear in your initial question, or react in a more civil manner to the people that care enough to react to vagueness.

Greetz Nico

Ashmatan · Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 61

OK, all
I had an honest question and needed an honest answer from anyone who could HELP me. Not to hear from some nobody who doesn't even know me to call me arrogant and saying that I know it all or something. For one, I would be the FIRST person to say that I don't know shit about any of this. I was just trying to explain what was happening and that I tried all of the obvious solutions, and nothing was working. If it's a relatively simple fix, I could figure it out and there would be no reason for a post. For two, NO ONE that has EVER met me can walk away saying that they don't like me for any reason. And to boot, my closest 2 friends would agree that I am a REACTIVE person. I don't start shit with anyone. But I WILL retaliate if I feel threatened. Frustrated with the 'I'm working fine one day, then off the next ' with the chatroom was my attitude and then I get spoken down on first like I'm stupid and didn't check the others on the dropdown list. Or check the firewall or used the search on the forums. I mean, come on people--that's just the logical way to try to find an answer to a problem. Research. I did just that and only told what I found, not that I have a friggin clue of what it was trying to say. It's just how I interpreted it. That's how I explained my problem. Everyone's responses were just redundant and like they were talking to a retard (which I'm not) or a child (I'm 31). I can talk without being condescending or rude. Others though, cannot which is very disrespectful and I don't put up with it especially cuz people can say anything they want thinking it's cool cuz it's online and nothing can happen to them. To those people, you are all punks and can die and quit breathing the air that the good, hard-working people of this world that try to maintain a positive, friendly atmosphere that anyone can feel comfortable going to for help or for a friendly game or to discuss anything without fear of running into some douchebag looking for cheap fun.
Anyway, I will look into the 6667 port and see if it helps.

Ban me for a week? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Take my birthday away too, while you're at it.

I'm starting to think the m-l ers aren't even worth my trouble to try to join tourneys anyway. I can always practice on MWS.

nico · Administrator Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 837

It looks like you got your definitions a bit mixed up. You didnot answer any of the standard questions, so no-one knows what you are talking aobut.
To understand eachother in a discussion, a clearly defined set of terms is to be established, with a set of questions/answers. When you don't supply them in a clear manner, people WIL ask them time and again.
If you know your problem then it might be a good idea to make a step by step list of your approach to solve the problem, and the exact outcome of your troubleshooting, including the point where it exactly went wrong.
Believe me, I know what I am talking about, since I have been writing manuals, and troubleshooting checklists for a living.
If you think a polite answer is condescending or in anyway meant to offend, you might want to go somewhere else.
The way you are reacting is asking for people to not take you seriously. ever.

Greetz Nico