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Fanboy
Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 424
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: bridge is gonna be REALLY REALLY broke in Xth? |
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So running through the Xth edition list with excitement I was coming to the black section and i read that Mortal Combat is coming back. I didn't think much, just passed on thinking it was n00b gold and would only spawn pet decks. 10 seconds later...
Oh fuck...bridge!
Is this card gonna make that deck unstoppable?
If you don't know what the card is, it's an instant win enchantment for 2BB. If you have twenty or more creatures in grave at the beginning of your upkeep you win.
Here's a list of Xth is you don't know by now (almost complete)
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=77078 |
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KeySam
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 553
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Its all the same this card may fit into bridge but it will die to the same hate it died before. If the would reprint Groundseal that would change a lot(there would still be Leyline), but this card doesnt change a lot. |
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Athios
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 13
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| This would be a nice alt.win condition. Especially against extirpate. But it still loses to the Tomad's crypt and Leyline. I think it may see play but it will not really improve the decks competitveness. |
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SaTiVa
Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 201
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| but it is good if ur oppo has god ruluskas and sacs dudes as needed to take out bridges but other than that it seems janky as it will mostly be dredged to grave |
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Volrath89
Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 38
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | but it is good if ur oppo has god ruluskas and sacs dudes as needed to take out bridges but other than that it seems janky as it will mostly be dredged to grave |
Mortal Combat reads "At the beggining of your upkeep, if twenty or more creatures cards are in your graveyard, you win the game."
So it doesnt really help that your oppo sac his dudes :/
And I don't think this card is broken in the deck, not even playable because you need 20 of your creatures and thats pretty hard to get even dredging a lot. When you get that number of creatures you'd win with Svogthos or Grave-Troll anyway so its unnecessary. Also I don't think it will win on turn 4 or 5 after it is casted because as I said its very hard to get that number of creatures in your graveyard. Yeah, the card will win later when you dredge more but later than turn 5 may be too late... especially against Gruul (the deck to beat after 10th imo). |
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avataroflaw
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 38
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:52 am Post subject: |
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| yeah, not to mention the fact that bridge doesnt really "draw" cards. most likely, it'll just dredge away mortal kombat =P |
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TD
Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 103
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:58 am Post subject: |
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| I think dredge combo is too disruptable for this to be a good strategy. Maybe building some sort of control dredge deck centered around bringing this online would work, but I don't think comboing out with this as a backup plan is likely to be tier 1, simply on the basis of you won't draw this most of the time and it is completely worthless in your graveyard, and you still don't evade the hate and still lose to the aggro with burn decks. |
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Avata
Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 376
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:40 am Post subject: |
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If you test with dredge a lot, you'll notice that after turn two, you're almost never actually drawing cards, you're dredging. This means
1) You end a lot of games with 2-3 land in play and
2) Mortal Combat is finding its way to the graveyard.
Is dredge strong? Yes. Does MC help? No, not really. |
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DRINKALCOHOL
Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 265 Location: New Gunsqu
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| lolpenis |
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Spyx
Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 888
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| rofl, mortal combat sucks dude. it loses to something as simple as disenchant or krosan grip... |
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LONE_GUNMAN
Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 64
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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people will say 'Bridge what?' it would be Mortal Dredge or Dregde Combat, or some clever name, and throw in lots of counter magic and willbender for grip =D
And this will be less disrputable, it wont even need the MC to win, bridge makes me laugh, i disrupt it pretty easy |
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Khelvaster
Joined: 08 Mar 2007 Posts: 10
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:26 am Post subject: |
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| Bridge still dies to extirpate, crypt, leyline, and martyr. |
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