10 land belcher post ext

okk_45 · Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 10

hi this is a old t2 deck i try to play it in ext post rot so far i got some good result. 36-7 but im not sure about some card plz give me some advise.
// Lands
1 [SHM] Mountain (1)
1 [SHM] Island (1)
8 [SHM] Forest (1)

// Creatures
4 [FD] Eternal Witness
2 [EVG] Wood Elves
4 [CHK] Sakura-Tribe Elder
4 [10E] Birds of Paradise

// Spells
1 [8E] Ensnaring Bridge
3 [9E] Defense Grid
1 [FD] Rude Awakening
1 [FD] Engineered Explosives
4 [MR] Goblin Charbelcher
4 [MR] Fabricate
4 [DS] Serum Powder
4 [MR] Chrome Mox
4 [CHK] Kodama's Reach
3 [MR] Journey of Discovery
4 [10E] Rampant Growth
1 [CHK] Tatsumasa, the Dragon's Fang
2 [TSP] Search for Tomorrow

// Sideboard
SB: 2 [8E] Ensnaring Bridge
SB: 3 [FD] Rude Awakening
SB: 3 [FD] Engineered Explosives
SB: 4 [8E] Boil
SB: 3 [10E] Naturalize

there 3 way to win
1.belcher
2.rude
3.Tatsumasa, the Dragon's Fang

the deck good macht up againt all grgro deck ist pretty much a bye and grid is a verry good awnser to NLB but need more then this that why i need some help thk

arkadias · Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 12

NLB is a dead deck from what i can see

so you shouldn't have to worry about that. however tron variants are still around

Circa · Joined: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 228

Needs moar Spirit Guide, Seething Song, Rite of Flame, Desperate Ritual, etc.
Also, if you're gonna run Wood Elves, why no duals? Seems like Stomping Ground might be good. Also a good idea to include the ONS sac-lands, since they get the land, and that's -1 land in the deck...

Just some thoughts.

Spyx · Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 885

Checks his really old extended belcher list

// Lands
4 [GP] Steam Vents
4 [GP] Stomping Ground

// Creatures
1 [SC] Elvish Aberration
4 [SC] Chartooth Cougar
4 [PLC] Simian Spirit Guide
4 [SC] Shoreline Ranger

// Spells
3 [7E] Mana Short
3 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
3 [OD] Moment's Peace
3 [MR] Fabricate
3 [MR] Thirst for Knowledge
4 [9E] Sleight of Hand
4 [MR] Goblin Charbelcher
4 [TSP] Lotus Bloom
4 [MR] Chrome Mox
4 [JU] Burning Wish
4 [FD] Pentad Prism

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [7E] Mana Short
SB: 1 [OD] Moment's Peace
SB: 1 [MR] Fabricate
SB: 3 [SOK] Pithing Needle
SB: 1 [PS] Hull Breach
SB: 1 [RAV] Recollect
SB: 3 [PT] Pyroclasm
SB: 3 [GP] Shattering Spree
SB: 1 [FD] Granulate

Hmm now to make it post rotation we have to ditch top, wish, moments peace, mana short. Rough quick build:

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
4 [GP] Steam Vents
4 [GP] Stomping Ground

// Creatures
4 [SC] Chartooth Cougar
4 [PLC] Simian Spirit Guide
4 [SC] Shoreline Ranger
1 [MR] Platinum Angel

// Spells
3 [MR] Fabricate
4 [MR] Thirst for Knowledge
4 [MR] Goblin Charbelcher
4 [TSP] Lotus Bloom
4 [MR] Chrome Mox
4 [FD] Pentad Prism
4 [LRW] Ponder
4 [SHM] Manamorphose
4 [MR] Seething Song
4 [CS] Rite of Flame

Filter some lands with the cyclers, draw some cards. Then go off when you have enough manasources or when your lotus resolves.

Spyx · Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 885

Or for a faster, and more ball to the walls approach I guess something like this would be better:

// Lands
5 [UNH] Mountain

// Creatures
4 [PLC] Simian Spirit Guide
4 [FUT] Street Wraith
4 [GP] Wild Cantor

// Spells
4 [TSP] Empty the Warrens
4 [MR] Goblin Charbelcher
4 [MR] Chrome Mox
4 [TSP] Chromatic Star
4 [MR] Chromatic Sphere
4 [CHK] Desperate Ritual
4 [MR] Seething Song
4 [CS] Rite of Flame
4 [SHM] Manamorphose
4 [CS] Mishra's Bauble

// Sideboard
SB: 4 [TSB] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 3 [SOK] Pithing Needle
SB: 4 [GP] Shattering Spree
SB: 4 [UL] Defense Grid

Tritemio · Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 41

Can I suggest
-4 [UNH] Mountain
-4 [FUT] Street Wraith
-4 [GP] Wild Canto
-4 [CS] Mishra's Bauble

+4 Steam Vents
+4 Ponder
+4 Sleight of Hand
+4 Lotus Bloom

caesarthehun · Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 40

Lotus bloom should never, ever have enough time to resolve in this deck

SniperMayer · Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 128

Well I have to say that this deck NEEDS Lotus Bloom. During playtesting, I could never go off before turn 5, because I had to deal with the mana problems. Wild Cantor is a low point in it, never stays alive, or doesn't give enough mana. I hesitate if I have a Star and a Cantor in hand, and most of the time I play the star for the drawing engine.

Street Wraith is just very nice with the +draw for 0 mana.

I'll test the 5mana version with blue as Tritemio suggested. It can beat elves easily, but is not consistent enough for me. I need a steadier going off ability.