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Mastodon
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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 Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: "playable" ponza... |
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Ok I saw all the terrible lists in the thread, dont bother with those, this one actually works...forget about 4cc LD, its way too slow, if anything use a demolish or two to smooth out the curve.
This list rocks but im taking suggestions/criticism. Usually end up burning the dude out at the end, especially in response to grapeshot for 5000.
3x Arc-Slogger
4x Demigod of Revenge
4x Slith Firewalker
4x Incinerate
4x Flame Javelin
2x Pyroclasm
2x Skred
3x Shrapnel Blast
4x Molten Rain
4x Stone Rain
2x Seething Song
4x Chrome Mox
16 Snow-Covered Mountain
4 Great Furnace
sideboard
4 Pyrostatic Pillar
4 Boil
3 Shattering Spree
4 Shatterstorm
The shrapnel blast really owns i've found... also considering figure of destiny in place of the slith firewalker? and the Deus guy (6/6, kills a land) seems playable.
Strongly considering splashing white for lightning helix but i hate 2 colors in this deck, always fuggs up my mana. |
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Bushviper
Joined: 07 Aug 2006
Posts: 150
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| Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I do think the Deus would be a good call as the synergy of the card with the idea of the deck seems to work. It alows you to keep destroying lands while applying pressure. |
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trueeevil
Joined: 08 Dec 2007
Posts: 242
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| Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think figure would be that good, as it doesn't do anything besides become a 4/4. Deus would be better than slith i think, because who doesn't like t1 or t2 deus. |
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ZW
Joined: 25 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't like it, because you need to be incredibly lucky to get it turn 1 or 2. This deck does not seem very good, 8 cards rely on your 4 seething song to be effective. It doesn't seem like you can beat zoo or ravager or really any other competitive decks. Why is this better than Dragon Stompy? |
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Mastodon
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| ZW wrote: | | I don't like it, because you need to be incredibly lucky to get it turn 1 or 2. This deck does not seem very good, 8 cards rely on your 4 seething song to be effective. It doesn't seem like you can beat zoo or ravager or really any other competitive decks. Why is this better than Dragon Stompy? |
whats wrong with slogger on turn 4? there are 4 mox in the deck. demigod also can come out that soon... if not sooner with seething song? i dont think that turn 3 seething song is my whole point here.... and there are only 2 of them ... i beat affinity all the time with this list. theres plenty of burn for zoo.
usually to beat affinity you have to side in 7 cards which is a little iffy but shatterstorm is usually GG if you let them overextend. zoo is the hardest matchup, tarmogoyf is tough to deal with. usually you can skred it though, and just come over the top with demigods or burn them out with slogger.
I'm asking for help with this, not just "this deck doesnt seem good lol" so if you might offer a suggestion other than play something else? i've been winning vs. that silly minds desire thing with grapeshot and affinity consistently. i will admit zoo is tough though, which is why i was considering splashing white for a few wrath of god or something and maindeck lightning helix. mostly i'd like to branch out from the 3 decks in the format people tend to play and actually work on something people dont see coming. |
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ChiDoRiE
Joined: 26 Feb 2008
Posts: 57
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| Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| strictly worse than the version with simian spirit guide |
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Mastodon
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| ChiDoRiE wrote: | | strictly worse than the version with simian spirit guide |
oh? why? seems like a dead card by mid/late game ... the mox really works out imho. what would you take out for it ... etc etc
dudes when you make comments try to actually say something other than your non-backed up statement. and which version including ssg are you referring to... god is this forum a complete waste of time...? |
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gypsy
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| yes it pretty much is a waste of time, testing with good players a lot is better than asking for help here |
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Ronnan
Joined: 08 May 2005
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:59 am Post subject: |
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hm, i dont see the slith beeing as good as it was in type 2
there just too much big cheap creatures, with tarmo on its top
skred might do 3-4 dmg, but thats prolly not enough, if u filled the gy with lands sorcery instants and critters
but i didn test, so non backed up assumptions |
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djww19
Joined: 15 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:06 am Post subject: |
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| You may want to swap the javelins for Flames of the Blood Hand. It keeps a hierarch from becoming a monster. |
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Ronnan
Joined: 08 May 2005
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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though then there is still that hierarch
and a deck with slith wants creature aming burn |
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Spyx
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Blood Moon > Land Destruction spells. Why destroy a few lands and watch them recover rather then making all their lands useless? There are A LOT of decks that run tons of non basics, including doran, zoo (that's right, no more tarmogoyf for them) and tron. |
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Mastodon
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah.... About ponza in extended.... it sucks. Don't play this. Ive tried and tried, but the more I test this just turns into big red and burns out the opponent. The only time stone rain or molten rain pay off is if the oppo doesnt draw enough land. Forget it. This list is playable, but not worth it I think. I'm gonna go netdeck now I guess. |
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therorschach
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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This could be hybridized with RDW, Demi-Stompy, and Ponza
burn package: 9
4 incinerate
3 Flame javelin
2 Flames of the Blood hand
mana package: 12 21
4 SSG
4 rite of flame
4 seeting song
Dragon package: 8 29
4 demigod
4 Arc-slogger
an LD package: 11 40
4 molten rain
4 blood moon
3 magus of the moon
20 mountains 60
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shrapnel blast could be worked in, with 4 great furnace, 4 darksteel citadel. I dunno....I am going to test it out. |
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