sideboard options for burn deck

dark_myth44 · Joined: 17 Oct 2008 Posts: 55

this is my current deck

Lands - 21
11x Mountain
2x Blinkmoth Nexus
4x Darksteel Citadel
4x Great Furnace

Creatures - 12
4x Spark Elemental
4x Mogg Fanatic
4x Keldon Marauders

spells - 27
4x Lava Spike
4x Shrapnel Blast
4x Incinerate
4x Magma Jet
4x Sulfuric Vortex
3x Flames of the Blood Hand
4x Rift Bolt

my sideboard options are -
- shattering spree against affinity obviously
- ensnaring bridge = very effective against any creature based deck as this deck goes into top deck mode very fast
- guttural response against teps and other combo decks
- firespout/flamebreak which kills pretty much all of zoo accept tarmogoyf and forces ravager to sack more artifacts
- pyrostatic pillar is good against most combo decks and zoo/affinity aggro types
- dragon claw is good agains aggro decks and especially decks running a lot of red
- sun droplet is good against aggro decks

other cards to consider md -
- browbeat (5 damage dealt or 3 cards are both beneficial)
- shard volley (lands do not seem to be an issue in this deck)
- thunderblast can be a 1 or 2of as a finisher

please post your sb ideas and what cards you would swap out for each match up

JKilla · Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 54

Ive been playing this deck for a loong time as most of you know and I even made a master top8 with it, my sb is geared towards beating affinity because its a bad MU.
4 sulfuric vortex
4 pyrostatic pillar
3 shattering spree
4 shatterstorm

also you dont put in pillar vs zoo bc it helps them kill you, only against storm.

dark_myth44 · Joined: 17 Oct 2008 Posts: 55

cheers, wht do you think of browbeat?
also what are the good and bad match ups? i see how zoo would be a good match up because they do a lot of damage to themselves.
i think the new teps with d nausiam+angels grace would be anoying.

Vesuvian · Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 56

Never play browbeat, it's not good.

Also, I've found from experience that Ensnaring Bridge isn't as good as you think it would be. I recommend cutting it.

dark_myth44 · Joined: 17 Oct 2008 Posts: 55

please people when you post your opinions can you give reasons for them
- why is browbeat bad? 5 damage or draw 3 cards seems good
- has your playtesting with ensnaring bridge been with this type of deck? because this deck goes into top deck mode realy fast like t4

Vesuvian · Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 56

My playtesting with Ensnaring Bridge is with this exact deck: Extended Burn. It's simply too slow against the decks you want to bring it in against. By the time you're able to empty your hand, and drop the bridge, Zoo will have you in burn range. If you only have 1 card in hand Affinity can attack with a 1/1 and then make him huge later via Ravager. Also, Ensnaring Bridge really sucks against Doran. Just to give a couple of examples. You'd be better off with a burn spell to try and race them. You say you hit topdeck mode, but the fact that you have a bridge means you had even 1 less burn spell in hand, and need to top deck 1 more spell than you would have had to if the bridge was just a burn spell.

Browbeat is the epitome of a card that seems good but isn't. People everywhere think it looks good and try to use it, especially newer players. But inevitably, it ends up being bad. It might be good sometimes, but in the end good decklists always end up cutting it. The problem with Browbeat is that the control is taken out of your hands. The opponent gets to make the choice, and they'll always choose the option you don't want them to choose. The card always doesn't have the impact on the game that you want it to, because the opponent chooses. Either they have enough life to spare, so they take the hit and it doesn't affect the board, or they have tempo so they'll let you draw the cards but it doesn't matter that you netted cards because you wont be able to use them all before you're tempod out.

And that is why neither of those cards should be used in this case.

religated · Joined: 08 Oct 2008 Posts: 2

pw709 · Joined: 17 Jun 2007 Posts: 30

The point is it's slow for a straight burn deck. Taking a turn to draw cards isn't what this deck wants to do. Every card wants and needs to deal damage. Taking a turn off against any aggro or combo deck to draw cards is a death sentence. Against control, it's probably 5 (if it doesn't get Remanded etc), but that's all you get to do for that turn. When you have 3 damage for 1 mana and 5 damage for 2 mana, Browbeat isn't that powerful by comparison.

dark_myth44 · Joined: 17 Oct 2008 Posts: 55

ok browbeat is out
what about shard volley in main? the decks that run them are doing quite well on magic workstation trials

also opinions on lands. so far i think this is a good mana base
12x mountian
4x great furnace
3x darksteel catidal
2x blinkmoth nexus