RG Beat down tips

Markus · Joined: 12 Sep 2008 Posts: 2

Hi all,

First of all I'm new in this forum

I used to play magic so long ago, and I recently have recued my old deck.

I'd like you all to give your opinion about what changes I should do to make it better. I've tryed it against control deck and it loses. Against a Rock it's equal (at least I think so). So, give your opinion please.

My deck:

4 Llanowar Elf
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Tarmagoyf
4 Troll Ascetic
4 Flametongue Kavu

4 Lightning Bolt
4 Incinerate
2 Urza's Rage
4 Rancor

3 Jitte
3 Sword of Fire & Ice

4 Taiga
8 Forest
7 Mountain

So, what do you think? Tell me everything you think about it.

Thanks!

Circa · Joined: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 228

Needs moar Kird Ape!

GnikXela · Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 77

Possably chain lightning and fetch lands. I also like Grim lavamancer and fireblast. Maybe even a cursed scroll or 2.

I'm thinking like this:

4 Birds of Paradise
4 Kird Ape
4 Tarmagoyf
4 Troll Ascetic
4 Grim Lavamancer

4 Lightning Bolt
4 Chain Lightning
3 Fire Blast
2 Cursed Scroll

3 Jitte
4 Rancor

4 Wooded Foothills
4 Taiga
4 Stomping Ground (could switch out for 2 mountain and 2 forest)
4 Mountain
4 Forest

I think this may be a little better, but that is just my idea. I also think with the cheaper curve, you wouldn't need the extra mana accel from the llanowars.

Tirentu · Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 4

I would do...

// legacy gruul

// lands 20
4 Taiga
4 Stomping Grounds
4 Wooded Foothills
6 Mountain
2 Forest

// creatures
4 Kird Ape - 2/3 for R, what do you want!
4 Grim Lavamancer - shocks for R, awesome
4 Tarmogoyf - best creature ever.
4 Scab-Clan Mauler - 3/3 trampler for RG? awesome.
1 Flametongue Kavu - needed a one-of Wink

// other spells
4 Lightning Bolt - 3 dmg for R?
4 Chain Lightning - 3 dmg for R?
4 Fireblast - 4 dmg for free?
4 Rancor - +2/+0, trample, and recursion for G?
3 Umezawa's Jitte - you win the game? count me in.

// sideboard
2 Pyroblast - aka counterspell
2 Red Elemental Blast - aka counterspell
13 random tech

Though really, I'd rather do...

// WRG legacy zoo

// lands 20
duals and fetches

// creatures 24
4 Kird Ape
4 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
4 Grim Lavamancer
4 Watchwolf
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Scab-Clan Mauler

// other spells 16
4 Lightning Helix
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Chain Lightning
4 Rancor

// sideboard 15
tech

Damn. That actually looks like the fastest deck ever.

Y2Sky · Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 38

The lists posted in the replies are fast and powerful, but with almost all of your cards being 1 or 2 drops, you are very vulnerable to Counterbalance (and to a lesser extent, Chalice of the Void).

If you want green beatdown but on a slightly different game plan, do a search on the "Eva Green" deck. It provides much needed disruption against those control decks and slightly varies the curve a little.

Granted, not EVERY local Legacy metagame is full of Counterbalance decks, but if yours is, give that deck a try or give your RG sideboard a heavy slant towards fighting Counterbalance.

terekjet · Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 15

Markus · Joined: 12 Sep 2008 Posts: 2

Thanks to all for your time in helping me. Finally, with your aportation I've decided on this deck. Similar to the Zoo, but 4 coloured.

So, it's this:

GRWB

Lands 20
duals and fetches (4 Taiga, 1 Bayou, 2 Plateau, 2 Savannah, 3 City of Brass, 4 Windswept Heath, 4 Wooded Foothhills)

Creatures 24
4 Kird Ape
3 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
3 Grim Lavamancer
3 Watchwolf
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Scab-Clan Mauler
4 Dark Confidant

Other spells 16
4 Lightning Helix
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Vindicate
4 Rancor

I think it has a good curve, good creatures and could work agains control deck.

What do you think?

Tank you all.

terekjet · Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 15

Uuhm... idk if the ascetics can survive on this ... maybe they are too slow for it but...
As i told u, i dont think that u need to win lives with helix, and maybe can find something more agressive...

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