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BoneMonkey
Joined: 21 Apr 2008 Posts: 44
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: Godhead of Awe |
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Godhead of Awe
it makes all OTHER creatures 1/1
but what if the cards have counters on them ? |
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GnikXela
Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 77
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| All creature become BASE 1/1's. What I mean by that is that if a creature has 3 +1/+1 counters on it, it would be a 4/4. Same for if it had an enchantment on it that gave it +3/+3. Ditto with global/local enchantments that give pumps. |
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DjiDJo
Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 18
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| If i have Godhead, after that I play Crovax, my white creatures will be 2/2, Godhead 5/5, Crovax 1/1, but what will happen if i first play crovax and than godhead? Will creatures be 1/1 instead of 2/2? Does the ability of godhead apply in same layer as Crovax's ? |
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Messyah
Joined: 30 Apr 2008 Posts: 14
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:06 am Post subject: |
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| As the other person stated. Godhead is only directed at thier base creature stats and Crovax is a global effect, so Godhead would reduce all base stats, all other whites would still get the +/+. |
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Hardtrack
Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 327
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:48 am Post subject: |
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It doesn't matter if it's a 'global effect' or not (and officially, the term no longer exists).
Godhead of Awe will override every other boost except for two things: counters and static abilities that give a P/T boost. Those two are always applied after the P/T is set. Crovax, Ascendant Hero has static abilities, so its abilities are applied after the P/T is set by Godhead. This also means it kills all nonwhite creatures.
All other abilities are applied in timestamp order. So if you first play the Godhead and let it resolve and then play Giant Growth the Growth will 'count'. Other way around and it is overwritten. |
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kby
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 146
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:58 am Post subject: |
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simple answer:
the Power/Toughness printed on cards is now 1/1
another question:
goyf is now a 1/1 suck card?  |
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Hardtrack
Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 327
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, Tarmogoyf is now 1/1. |
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onecleanceli
Joined: 27 Mar 2005 Posts: 264
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| I think hardtrack explained it pretty perfectly |
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BoneMonkey
Joined: 21 Apr 2008 Posts: 44
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:48 am Post subject: |
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what if a creature is 0/1 like birds of paradise ?
does it get boosted up to 1/1? |
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kfcman
Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 672
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| BoneMonkey wrote: | what if a creature is 0/1 like birds of paradise ?
does it get boosted up to 1/1? |
Yes. All Creatures become 1/1 base stat creatures. |
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SniperMayer
Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 105
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| And what if I play Crovax first, not Godhead? Does Godhead's ability overwrite Crovax's? Can timestamp order be used in this situation? |
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GnikXela
Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 77
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| The Crovax isn't affecting base stats, so even if the Crovax was in play first, it's abilities would still be in effect. |
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Hardtrack
Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 327
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:22 am Post subject: |
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The order you play them in only matters if they apply in the same layer.
Counters and static abilities that boost P/T are in a later layer than the P/T setting abilities. So the order doesn't matter, they are always applied later.
The order of Crovax and the Godhead thus doesn't matter. |
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