Plague of Rats + Pandemonium?

BanditFrosty · Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 21

Seriously, think it would work? Throw in Furystoke Giant, maybe splash green for Primal forcemage?

asamodious · Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 121

The best thing you could do is forget you even thought about playing any of those cards in a competitive deck.

Circa · Joined: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 217

LOL@ asamodious.

BanditFrosty · Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 21

yeah, ya know, people said the same thing about anouther card like that. What was it called? Oh yeah, Tooth and Nail.

shadow483 · Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 55

The concept is sound, but the only problem I see is that the combo may backfire as both players pay life then get rats. Then pandemonium triggers. Depending on which order the effects trigger, your own combo might kill you. I don't want to say thats true until we get a ruling on it. Its either they go on the stack active player non-active player, or being that pandemonium is your card, you control the order in which they resolve. If its the latter, then your combo works since you will kill your opponent before his triggers kill you. Its also problematic that plague of vermin costs 7 and pandemonium costs 4 meaning you need 11 mana.

ACM · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 111

The rats will enter play at the same time, and the triggers will be put on stack in APNAP order, meaning that the one who plays Plague of Vermin gets his/her trigger on the stack first, and then the nonactive player gets the trigger on top.

ILikeBananas · Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 155

Seems too fragile to make competitive. Rats have no haste. By the time you reach 7 mana, the slower control decks probably found their mass removal already and the faster decks probably already killed you. This means you need to pack sufficient defense to last until turn 5-7. Also, vs aggro, u'll likely have less life than your opponent. The life you bid will seem counterproductive.

Pandemonium is very risky in aggro format. Your opponent is going to get a few damage with it probably before you do.

ACM · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 111

And due to the opponent probably having higher life totals than you when you play Plague of Vermin with Pandemonium out, he will be able to kill you off first due to the APNAP ordering of the triggers.

Not viable in any format.

BanditFrosty · Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 21

Eh, kinda figured it was something like that. I was just trying to find a cool combo that was worth building a deck out of.

Ownj00 · Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 73

having a hand in tuning tooth for the original block pro tour, let me assure you, plague of rats is no tooth and nail.

BanditFrosty · Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 21

Admittedly. But the point stands. Just because the card itself seems... janky, doesnt mean that a new card wont make it a huge success down the road.