WeeCon

Jimmyto · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 12

Land:

20x Plains
3x Forbidding Watchtower

Creatures:

4x Elvish Hexhunter
4x Safehold Elite
4x Kitchen Finks
2x Wilt-Leaf Cavaliers
2x Wilt-Leaf Liege
1x Oversoul of Dusk

Non-Creature Spells:

2x Ajani Goldmane

4x Shield of the Oversoul
4x Oblivion Ring

4x Wrath of God

3x Condemn
3x Unmake

Sideboard:

4x Beckon Apparition
4x Hail of Arrows
3x Crib Swap
2x Runed Halo
2x Wilt-Leaf Liege

Wanted to try this out for POST ROTATION.

It is suceptible to removal from game, bounce and tokens (if you are unlucky enough to not draw a wrath : P ). Blue (non-merfolks) is its main weakness, but there s nothing out there to consider other than UB faeries. We ll wait and see what Shards of A has for us.

It is quite decent however against rest of the possible for upcoming format.

Won't go long on explanations..
I better get feedback on this first.

Go ahead plz...

Vedrfolner · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 1440

soooooo, what is the idea behind building a weenie/control deck?

What are you trying to achieve with it?

You pump out small creatures the first few turns then wrath the board?

You attack him relentlessly then, when he attacks you back (which is not going to happen), you condemn that creature and give him life back?

I don't understand your deck, or why you want help with a deck which development in testing the next 3 months will be worthless.

How on earth can anybody help you improve your deck when no-one knows what it will be up against?

Jimmyto · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 12

Having a base ready of an "original" deck for fun is not considered a sin last time i checked..

Creatures here can go through own wraths through persist or shields..ajani can help too.
It is not an aggro deck so a condemn doesn't affect it as this is no way going to kill turn 4. It rather builds up creatures the "gay" way.

And last....
you can go ahead and keep playing those omfgpawnz0r everything decks and maybe, just if you want to, pull the stick out your ass.

Vedrfolner · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 1440

It is not original - it is a GW Shield of the Overlord creature deck.

It is an aggro deck. It has low-casting cost creatures in it. Running Wrath of God in a deck doesn't make it control. And decks without card-drawing cannot be aggro-control.

Are you insinuating that I am playing decks other people make? Netdecking? Stop soiling your own pants in public, kid. Learn magic before you claim originality and creativity. There is absolutely nothing creative about your deck... which is why I am the only one kind enough to bother replying to your post.

Listen to the advice and replace Wrath of God with more cavaliers, lieges and oversouls, and your deck will become a lot better instantly.

Also, cut Elvish Hexhunter for more of the creatures I mentioned above, or eventually Crovax, Paladin en-Vec, Loxodon Warhammer, Spectral Procession. Even though you play Shield of the Oversoul, all of your creatures does not need to be GW.

Jimmyto · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 12

Dictionary Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This
o·rig·i·nal
–adjective

-an original work, writing, or the like, as opposed to any copy or imitation.
-arising or proceeding independently of anything else.
-capable of or given to thinking or acting in an individual manner

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Sure, next time I ll come with a omG!! RDwillW , UBFunnyF, GBelvesReloaded ...and claim originality and thus gain points with you for bringing a wtfpawner deck.

Do you notice the quotation marks wrapping the word "original" I wrote??. I just wonder what did your mind grasp about it.
Maybe you intentionally missed em just to make yourself an argument..who knows.

It isn't an aggro deck as you state, aggros aren't this slow that we know. The only thing you make a point in is about the drawing issue for the control part.

Hmmm, so I come with a mixed weenie + control thingy and you make advices to turn it into a full aggro ? talk about originality.

If it were any other person I would gladly take the criticism and modify/change the structure of it, but being you (a so called forum e-gansta who is always lurking magic-league community cutting down people and acting allmighty), I could give a crap about your "cunning" remarks.

see what i did there? or did you miss the quotation marks again?.

+10 for e-douchebag

Vedrfolner · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 1440

lol self insight is sorely missing here, I see.

The only further comment I bother to make at this point, is that there is no such thing as weenie control. Make of that what pleases you.

Jimmyto · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 12

exposed much?

Mirage · Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 96

Jimmyto · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 12

hmmmm i may have to change that quoted word to...

hmmm..."not-sticking-to-what-is-generally-played-by-everyone-everywhere"

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Ok, so it has had some good results against:

Seismic Swans: 4-0 Have only played 2 matchs against it, and without seissmic assault it won't be in the near future so to speak, anyway.
Demigod Burn 9-1
RDW 8-2
GBelves 8-2
UMerfloks 7-3
WKithkins 7-3

Some regular

Reveillark 6-4
RB Tokens 5-5

and some bad:

Elfball 4-6
Quick n toast 2-8

Auryn_il_Vec · Joined: 16 Aug 2008 Posts: 2

After 13 years of playing this game, I find only one thing to be certain: There is no originality, unless you are on the design teams. They have the same lists, and the same deck ideas, with better resources, more time, and they get paid to do it! Just because someone sees a similarity between your deck and another and suggests that maybe the things that worked to make those designs stronger might work to help you win agame or two, do not assume that it is an insult. Just think for a second as to why "what-is-generally-played-by-everyone-everywhere," is just that. It is because they work. If you wanted to post the deck with no criticism of your build's integrity, perhaps you should not post in the first place. Serious players come here to see what new ideas are out there, that they may have overlooked. They don't bother with fixing broken designs. As was stated above; there is no weenie-control. This isn't '98 and counter-sliver is long dead. I applaude the try to recreate an archtype of old (aka not original as you thought), but you just don't have the style of cards in the sets available to make it the best. As for actual help with your decklist:

I see very little to improve your deck without changing your precious originality. If it's mono-white WTF that you are shooting for, you've hit the nail on the head. Any addition of another color could be nothing but befinicial. Green for more effective large creatures. Black for better damage potential, and red for the same. But the best in my opinion, would be Blue. It gives you the card draw that so effectively supports control, as well as give you more control options. As for perpetuating the same design, my suggestions lead only to the possible addition of Edge of Divinity, Knights of Meadowgrain, or even a Loxodon Warhammer or two. Even those are iffy and situational at best, and that is the best you've got without knowing what SofAlara holds. Sorry about your luck, and no hard "feelings," eh? Cool

Jimmyto · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 12

yah no hard feelings..
And yes, I m waiting SOA's blue to make up for the lack of lor/sha block and maybe fix the draw/control issue of this thing...as so far, it is a weenie deck with a bit of removal, I just liked the WeeCon title.

I just wished everyone didnt grab onto the "original" thingy.
As i stated, I didn't mean it in the inventive kind of way...hence the quotation marks. Maybe i should have used another definiton.

And, I have taken criticism everytime I have posted decks and opinions and took ever1 s point of view into consideration in every forum I have wrote. Other forum communities can be reluctant too, but they don't resort to cut down and belitling other players the way the guy I was flaming does every time in magic-league one, hence my replies to him.

Thanks for the input.

Vedrfolner · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 1440

Jimmyto · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 12

ok, now I gotta agree to avoid looking as a douche : P.

Budget deck for local playing, no nats or high scale tournaments ..just little ones since I just started playing again.

And well, here most ppl are already trying post rotation ext and standar so....

wtv, I think Ima stick to my RDW...
see? you already got me emo : (