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KeySam
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 553
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:30 am Post subject: MGBE (Mono Green Budged Elfs) |
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This is a deck i am working on, i probably going to take it to ptqs. I love any suggestios:
// Lands
23 [P2] Forest (3)
// Creatures
4 [MOR] Heritage Druid
4 [LRW] Wren's Run Vanquisher
4 [MOR] Bramblewood Paragon
4 [LRW] Imperious Perfect
4 [MOR] Chameleon Colossus
4 [EVE] Nettle Sentinel
2 [SHM] Oversoul of Dusk
4 [SHM] Wilt-Leaf Cavaliers
// Spells
4 [EVE] Snakeform
3 [SHM] Tower Above
// Sideboard
SB: 2 [SHM] Oversoul of Dusk
SB: 1 [SHM] Tower Above
SB: 4 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
SB: 3 [SHM] Faerie Macabre
SB: 2 [LRW] Cloudthresher
SB: 2 [LRW] Lignify
SB: 1 [SHM] Raking Canopy
Its basicly an elf aggro deck, that can have those extremly explosive starts with hertiage druid. (Random wins are realy good, espacally if they dont hurt your strategie)
The lignifys in the sideboard are cause of demigod, because i realy need to handle him.
I didnt had problems against faeries thisfar, seems like a favorable match.
Red aggro seems ok. Demigod can be a problem, but i can handle it even in the maindeck. Not sure how this mu exactly is.
I played once against gw and i won althoug that doesnt say mutch.
Merfolk are also kind of okay i am thisfar 6-3 aginst it, but played only 3 matches(doesnt has to say alot).
QnT doesnt seem so good. Seems like a problematic matchup, i suspect 5c elementls be similar, but i am not sure.
Didnt played against anything else. I am torn on Kithkin, it seems if you get hertiage going, you should be able to take them down quickly, but only testing will tell that.
I am still not sure about the sideboard, and pretty confidant with the maindeck. I search for good strategies against QnT and probably 5c Elementals, if that mu turns out to be similar to QnT.
(This is a budget deck so i cant afford garruk , i am already pretty high for my taste, but ok.9
KeySam
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Tird_Ape
Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 112
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:06 am Post subject: |
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| chameleon is as much as garruk.. oh well maybe talra's battlion i think they are pretty good |
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KeySam
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 553
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Thats true Tird, but i cant afford both and chameleon seems better im more circumstances. Depends how mutch i actually pay, i maybe get them for the sideboard. I tested talras battlion and i am not huge fan of it. It gives great turn 3s, if you have multiple one drops or Hertiage, but i didnt want a creature when i am usualy already in pretty good shape(if hertiage gets to turn 3 action i am in pretty good shape). And then later it will cloak up my hands.
Thanks for the advice though.
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Trotsky1
Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 941
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| Try raking canopy as an answer to demi-god in the in the board do not even need to run a full suite as 1 answers all 4. Also I much prefer wilt-leaf cavilers over gilt leaf ambush, just seems a stronger card. |
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KeySam
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 553
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Trosky, i like your ideas, i give both a shot. I liked gilt-leaf ambush because of bramblewood, hertiage and the posibillity to kill a attacking creature. I rarely killed creatures though and i think your right about Caveliers, it also makes the deck better against firespout. Bramblewood looses a bit power, what do you guys think of Wolf skull shaman instead(running 28 cards gives him almost 50% to hit, each look), on the other hand bramblewood gives trample to chameleon and +1/+1 so your up against opposing chameleons. I am unsure about Ranking Canopy, because they can still let them hang on defense. I may give it a shot though.
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Trotsky1
Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 941
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:40 am Post subject: |
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I think bramblewood paragon is the stronger card but testing should settle any doubts you have. If you do want to keep more of a warriors theme boggart ram gang, is an option. More vunerable than wilt leaf to firesprout, though turn 2 paragon turn 3 4/4 trample wither haste seems pretty sick and the extra speed could be just what the doctor ordered for the deck. Also draws with multiple ram gangs are very hard to deal with and will regularly knock a turn off your clock.
On raking canopy perhasp its best used as a misers one off in sb as it can be good vs fae also, though multiples are most of the time redundant. |
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KeySam
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 553
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:07 am Post subject: |
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I dont think i like ramgang in that deck, it doesnt realy seems to fit. I like the idea of the miser Canopy ill defanatly do that.
Anyone has an idea on the QnT sideboard plan?
Updated list in first post.
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Stucco
Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 563
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Do you have the money for Tolara's Battalion? Since you are running the Hertiage Druid engine with Nettle Sentinle, it shouldn't be too difficult to drop her. |
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kilomitro
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 158
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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4 nettle sentinals
4 llanowar elves
4 wolfskull shaman
4 wrens run vanq
4 imperious perfect
4 cc
4 snakeform
4 ovverun
4 tower above
24 lands
quick. efficient. exciting. I like this list better since u have most of the quick game as the list with tarmogoyf, only really losing out if u just cant hit with kinship. Yet with the wolfskulk u still have the 2 drops the deck wants, but also another token generator to make your overruns more potent. Speaking of overrun, it and tower above are your profane commands and garruks. you lsoe the flexability of the cards, but garruk= overrun and tower above kills a guy and trampls over damage. Its like profane if u try hard hard enough to imagine it. tower above and snakeform are your removal package, allowing you to always win in combat. snakeform could turn into gianr growth. might of old korosa/ barkshel blessing, but that all dont say draw a card.
as far as creatures go, no one should be arguing about nettle sentinal, wrens run vanq, imperious perfect or CC. llanowar elves > twinblade slasher b/c if ur going to be attacking with a 1/1 it might as well accelerate into something better than itself once in a while. the wolf skulk is your tarmogoyf replacement, and was chosen over bramble paragon b/c 1/3 of the time itll make another guy, not only making your overrun better, but breaking stalemates and just being a one man army if your opponent lets it.
hopefully i was helpful. GL HF |
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gypsy
Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 921
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| too bad llanowar elves isnt in block |
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kilomitro
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 158
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:38 am Post subject: |
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i fail at life. llanowar elves turns into twinblade slasher i guess.....  |
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thedarkness
Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 493
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:34 am Post subject: |
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| Neither is Overrun. |
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KeySam
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 553
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:10 am Post subject: |
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First thanks to all.
Kilomitros deck is t2 and i wouldnt cut the hertiage druid because he gives crazy starts, while he can still attack(1 point can make the difference).
@Stucco i dont like Battalion, i tested with it but it only helped when i was already in pretty good shape(hertiage engine up and running) and sit in my hand to often, so i cutt him/her/it again.
Ideas for sideboard tech against QnT are still welcome.
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Trotsky1
Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 941
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Only thing I can possibly think of that may help vs QnT is drain the well which if i remember correctly is just a green black version of poison the well, it may not be enough on its own however to have any actual impact. Good job with trial placement. |
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Redblade
Joined: 01 Apr 2008 Posts: 7
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